Strategic Housing Land Availability Assessment


“Dear All

It has been brought to my notice that the information I put out for the whole Community for the 3 villages regarding the SHLAA Sites was wrong.  The majority of the information relating to the sites are NOT in Flood Zone 2 as I had entered.  I read the information totally wrong from WCC, and I profusely apologise to everyone concerned, and especially to anyone from the Community who are wanting to put their land up for development.  I promise I did not intentionally make this error – it was solely  due to a misinterpretation on my part.

Once again, please accept my profuse apology to everyone concerned.    

Lorrie Smith”

DEAR NEIGHBOUR; IN YOUR PARISH MAGAZINE, THERE IS AN INSERT FROM SHEDFIELD PARISH COUNCIL RELATING TO POCKETS OF LAND FROM SHLAA – stands for Strategic Housing Land Availability Assessment.

I have been able to obtain a better map, with areas/roads for ease of reference so you can see where the pockets of land are. I have also checked to see how many houses are “suggested” FOR EACH bit of land. I have done this because many of you have contacted me asking me for information relating to the areas concerned. PLEASE NOTE THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW NUMBER OF HOUSES FOR CERTAIN PLOTS AS IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE AMOUNT FOR THAT POCKET OF LAND. Please note that the areas of land in question have ONLY BEEN PUT FORWARD AS SUGGESTIONS, not as specific areas of land that will be built on…..having said that, no doubt these pockets MAY WELL be brought to fruition in due course.

As you will note, there are only 2 pockets of land within our Boundary, and the rest is greenfield – even though we had Blueprint/SHEDS Questionnaire responses from Waltham Chase whereby nearly 99% of you stated you did not want any green land to be used up and wanted to maintain our strategic gaps …..but still, Winchester City Council appear to have gone ahead and Shedfield Parish Council’s hands are tied because they are being pressurised into making a decision as soon as possible as to which plots of land should/could be put forward.

WE NEED YOUR INPUT – YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR SAY AS TO WHERE THESE 250 HOUSES ARE TO BE PUT IN WALTHAM CHASE. THANK YOU. LORRIE SMITH

3rd July 2013

Waltham Chase SHLAA Map 18062013v1 0 (3)  (PDF file)

SHLAAMap 2103

KNOWN SHLAA SITES SUGGESTED FOR DEVELOPMENT
SITE NO ON MAP

ADDRESS

HOW MANY HOUSES SUGGESTED FOR THIS SITE

CONS

379

CROSSWAYS, CLEWERS HILL

5

greenfield site;proximity to town centre 2.1 km; infill development; estimated timescale for delivery 2012=2017

1753

CLEWERS LANE

25

greenfield site proximity to town centre;1.9 km; Promoted as residential AND commercial not suitable for elderly due to being away from main centre of WC and Post Office and steep hills from Curdridge Lane and Bull Lane.. suggested timescale is 2022-2027

1837

FOREST CLOSE

46

 greenfield site; adjoins an SSSI; located on the edge of WC; proximity to town centre 2.6; estimated timescale for delivery 2017-2022

1890

LAND OFF SANDY LANE

6

greenfield site proximity to town centre;2.3 km; not suitable for elderly due to being away from main centre of wC and Post Office. promoted alongside 1891 and 1892 below) ; suggested timescale is 2022-2027

1891

SEVEN OAKS, CLEWERS HILL

5

greenfield site suggested residential OR industrial/commercial; proximity to town centre 1.8 km; estimated timescale for delivery 2012-17

1892

MOUNT PLEASANT, SANDY LANE

19

 part greenfield; 2017

1893

LAND AT SANDY LANE AND BULL LANE

43

 Greenfield Site; proximity to town centre 2.4 km; large site, further sites to the north have been submitted for the SHLAA (1890, 1892 and 1891)

1894

LAND BTWN FOREST ROAD/ LUDWELLS LANE

202

greenfield site; proximity to town centre 2 km. SITE FALLS BETWEEN LOCAL GAP. FLOOD ZONE SKIRTS PAST THE SITE TO THE NORTH. ADJACENT TO NEW ROAD SPORTS GROUNDS. Proposed mixture of residential and employment. Believed to tie up with Swanmore land as well. Timescale for Delivery: 2017-2022;

2065

LAND BEHIND ROSEHILL GARAGE S032 2LX

11

 Greenfield Site estimated timescale for delivery 2022-2027. Mixed Use site. Owner is interested in putting all of the Rosehill Garage site forward as a potential residential/mixed use development, and points out that the land is unlikely to be suitable for residential while the existing employment is retained.

2288

JHANSI FARM, CLEWERS LANE

17

Greenfield Site proximity to town centre 1.8 km – site is within local gap; will demolish the rural hedgerow and wildlife.

2388

LAND NORTH OF LOWER CHASE RD

129

Greenfield Site proximity to town centre 1.8 km; in local gap. This site is also being promoted as a rural exception site for 15 units subject to planning permission etc. estimated time for delivery 2012-2017.

2405

FOREST FARM, WINCHESTER RD

129

greenfield; proximity to town centre 1.5 km; this is a large site separated from a high order settlement by another SHLAA site to the south . . SEE ALSO 2406 BELOW

2406

LAND OPPOSITE FOREST FARM, WINCHESTER RD

220

Greenfield Site proximity to town centre 1.25 km. TPO’s in area. Land proposed is for residential AND COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL; this is a large site separated from the boundary of a high horder settlement by other SHLAA sites. Partly within the Local Gap.

2432

LAND SOUTH OF FOREST RD, WALTHAM CHASE

64

 Land proposed is for residential, MIXED USE I.E. COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL AS WELL

2466

MEADOW COTTAGE, BULL LANE

14

 greenfield; proximity to town centre 3 km; the existing house and garden could be retained as part of the overall layout. Part of this site is inside the settlement boundary and so has a separate aentry in the estimated housing capacity tables.

2491

LAND AT JANSHI FARM NORTH OF CLEWERS LANE

5

 proximity to town centre 1.8 km. Site is within Local gap. This site is between sites 1753 (Clewers Lane) and 2288 (Jhansi Farm). Owner is promoting smaller, more affordable dwellings apparently.

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8 Responses to Strategic Housing Land Availability Assessment

  1. Admin says:

    “Dear All
    It has been brought to my notice that the information I put out for the whole Community for the 3 villages regarding the SHLAA Sites was wrong. The majority of the information relating to the sites are NOT in Flood Zone 2 as I had entered. I read the information totally wrong from WCC, and I profusely apologise to everyone concerned, and especially to anyone from the Community who are wanting to put their land up for development. I promise I did not intentionally make this error – it was solely due to a misinterpretation on my part.

    Once again, please accept my profuse apology to everyone concerned.

    Lorrie Smith”

  2. Lorrie Smith says:

    Hi Jill – comments above noted. I hope you get my previous email altering what was said in 2288 plot of land – sorry again for any mis-information. It was not intentional and hope I have rectified it.

    It’s really good that we are all talking about these pockets of land in WC. I totally agree with you that we need fresh blood in WC, and totally agree with you that we shouldn’t be selfish and say “not in my back yard”. We have 28 pockets of land to consider, which is a good thing. IF Jhansi Lodge could be made into a communal home for the elderly, then this would certainly assist some of our Group, and I agree with you, it’s a very eye catching building. However, my gut feeling is that it will not be the entrance to the Village, but integrated with other plots of land that are creeping into the green belt up towards The Chase Pub.

    We all have our opinions, and I think it’s brilliant that this website is here for communication and discussion. I tried to get Shedfield PC to organise a Village Hall Meeting, but sadly, their time is very limited as they are being pressed for a decision by SHLAA and Winchester City Council. Isn’t it good that they managed to get the Forms out to every single household in our 3 villages, asking for our opinions? That is truly getting the community involved, and I for one totally appreciate what they are trying to achieve here, bless them.

    Bye for now
    Lorrie

    • Jill Tulett says:

      High Lorrie, As 99% of people in the village are opposed about more building in WC and nobody wants it in their back yard and only 2 parcels of land are in the village boundary, then choosing any site is ner’ impossible, but it has to be done and while the minority won’t be pleased, it is a simple fact we do not have enough houses to live in, for our future needs, and young people cannot get on the housing ladder, that most of us older people accomplished without to much bother.We need starter homes in the village ,affordable to get a few more youngsters on the ladder.I still am of the opinion that Jhansi is the perfect pocket for more housing. A safe environment for the children,with the play area adjacent. I feel because of it’s compact nature, this will be a perfect place to start building.Many of the other sites are in exposed positions and could lead into what starts as small, into larger and larger sites, giving the village a “town like” feel. Accessing some of the sites will also be cumbersome, as in the sites around Sandy Lane. I think the building on the opposite side of the B2177 running up to the Chase Inn is far to large, for our building requirements at present.. Only my thoughts. Jill

  3. Lorrie Smith says:

    Note to Jill Tullett
    I need to alter something I wrote above based on info from SHLAA – it is to do with 2288. This bit of land is being promoted for a mix of market and affordable housing and NOT as originally stated by me re commercial use.. Sorry, not quite my fault, I pasted some comments from SHLAA but later noted they had altered it – sadly, I still had the the wrong bit of info Jill.
    Lorrie

  4. Lorrie Smith says:

    Hi Jill, Lorrie here.
    Thanks for your response. It is very important that you put this response actually on to the Page provided to you in your Parish Magazine, and that you submit it either in the post box at the Post Office, the Parish Clerk at Shedfield Pavilion, or at the Village Store’s special box provided. Your comments on this site, whilst they are read, will not be taken into consideration by the Shedfield PC and more importantly, they need your input.

    I note your comments, and wonder if you are aware of the other pockets of land that is being put into this area. To give you a heads up re Jhansi Farm, I have noted that the area of Jhansi Farm and other parts of that particular area are being promoted as 4 plots of land i.e.1753, 2529 and 2288 Jhansi Farm/land bordering Clewers Hill/and commercial land in Clewers Hill
    AND overlaps with Site 2491 –

    I have gleaned information, and have put in my own comments for OPPOSAL because of these facts:
    These are FOUR sites rolled into one. If one is approved, the other 3 will undoubtedly also be approved.

    1753 is a large site, and suggested capacity is for 26 homes.
    2529 – no details rec’dfrom WCC despite requests – similar size to 1753
    – I believe that the majority of this land MAY be up for commercial use.
    – (See reasons below).
    .
    2288 – no details rec’d from WCC, despite requests. – smaller size to 1753.
    – I believe that the majority of this piece of land MAY be up for commercial
    use. (See reasons below).

    2491 – again is a large site, suggested capacity is for 26-28 homes.
    This site overlaps with all 3 sites above, but has been “DISCOUNTED”
    by SHLAA due to avoid “double counting in the capacity
    tables” .nevertheless, it SHOULD be counted when Waltham Chase
    and Shedfield Parish Council are working together on all the plots of
    land as shown on the SHLAA Map!

    These sites are within the WDLPR Local Gap. The owners propose that this area be bounded by Clewers Lane, Clewers Hill and the B2177. It MAY set a precedent for further expansion to the North.
    Some parts of these four plots will be “given over for existing commercial use, and ONLY 1.1 ha of these sites are apparently offered for development for residential use.

    I personally OPPOSE these four sitesmainly because of (but please note, this is my own view due to gleaning facts for me)
    • the location, i.e. small lane, leading to a very busy road,
    • the fact that a fair portion of these 4 plots of land will apparently be given over for commercial use (see page 300 of the Winchester District Strategic Housing Land Availability Assessment Notes (updated February 2013) for further information and guidance),
    • the fact that many Heavy Lorries mistakenly go UP this Street thinking it is Clewers Hill, rather than Clewers Lane to access the Heavy Industrial Unit at Church House Farm.
    • Destruction of the Hedgerow: have you seen the beautiful Wildlife Diary that is on our Waltham Chase Website page where one very diligent Parishioner has photographed/collated all the wildlife in that specific area?.
    • Also, under the Hedgerows Act, this long length of hedgerow should be protected. Tree Preservation Orders 9TPO’s) are also in the area as well.
    • Would be placed right next to Open Lane i.e. the Triangle, whereby local Parishioners may be hindered whilst walking/football practice etc due to increased volumes of traffic using Clewers Hill, Clewers Lane from either B2177 Winchester Rd or Curdridge Lane
    • I do not like the fact that SHLAA has “discounted” putting all these pockets of land into one section of their assessment, as it gives Residents of WC an unexplained or hidden agenda! After all, they aren’t called the Strategic Department for nothing!

    Just for info, WCC wishes to deliver this development from 2013-2017.

    Jill – I hope this helps. Any further information you can contact me by email on
    lorrie_smith@onetel.com

    • Jill Tulett says:

      Hi Lorrie, I am more than familiar with the site. I really do not think that birds and other wild life, will be affected due to the fact, that birds are fed from bird tables in peoples gardens. There are so many other hedges in close vicinity, and that is where they will relocate, if they want to.The birds won’t disappear because of a few extra houses. Housing is desperately needed in the village and this is the only site where it cannot creep away into the countryside. I personally do not think that other Northern proposed sites necessarily will be open to future planning, as if you look closely you will notice that the site is in line with houses opposite on the b2117 Winchester Road. This is a piece of valuable land which is being totally wasted.It cries out for development We have to look at the bigger picture, and not be selfish adults..Jhansi Lodge could be a communal home for the elderly. The bus stop is right outside the front door, so with a little change and with creative Architects, the farm could feature as a beautiful entrance to the village..Youngsters should be given the opportunity to purchase affordable housing in the village they grew up in. It is a close knit village where a lot of villagers are actually related.There is an opportunity for Children to play safely on the triangle. Walkers will be able to walk through the site instead of up Clewers Hill. Lorries rarely use the Clewers lane, as Clewers hill is the main road for their use, and there are signs pointing to where the Industrial site is situated from the main road. Coming out of the lane is no more hazardous than the cars that come out of houses on the B277, and there are other ways of leaving the lane already in place. The site is open and not clustering itself in the closed development already in the village. Jill

  5. Jill Tulett says:

    Site 2288, will also complete the proposed Jhansi Farm build. I do not accept that much in the way of Hedging will be affected. We cannot leave these abandoned sites to stay in a derelict condition. We need sites to build houses, and must think of future generations, and their needs. The site is an ideal,partner to the other proposed build at Jhansi, the commercial side only being one shed.

  6. Jill Tulett says:

    I personally think site 1753, to be an ideal site to build affordable and private houses. The site is flat and there is a bus stop opposite the Jhansi Farm house enabling people to get to Bishop’s Waltham and onward to Winchester and Southampton. The site is within its own boundery surrounded by roads, so can never penetrate into the rolling countryside. The triangle is the perfect place for children to play, and for dog walkers, as there is access in the plans to make this possible. Very little in the way of upsetting wild life will be taken away, as all wildlife adapts, and there are still plenty of hedges around the area.The building company will landscape the site, and replace any hedges after the build, I believe. The site being on the Northern Edge of Waltham Chase,so makes little impact on the residents there, and the houses built in Clewers Lane,will barely see any buildings.There is still a significant gap(The Triangle) between the villages, and a collection of brown field and redundant buildings still litter the site. Lets make this site beautiful , and allow houses to be built. There are two very significant houses already built on the Jhansi Farm site, soa few more will compliment them.

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